2:11 The basic message of the infancy narrative is contained in the angel’s announcement: this child is savior, Messiah, and Lord. 2:23). The truth is: it doesn’t say that. from a web site similar in spirit to the books I mention, http://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/quirinius.html. In his book, The Birth of the Messiah, p. 46, for example, he flatly declares the two infancy narratives “are contrary to each other.”. I know what you’re thinking. The “home” was in Nazareth where the Holy Family had traveled well over a year before the coming of the Magi. It is crucial to understand that other than the mention of Christ’s actual birth in Matt.

First of all, when the Magi “saw his star” in the East that indicated the birth of the “king of the Jews,” it was only then that they began their journey to Israel, according to Matthew 2:2. They both love to find alleged “contradictions” in Scripture. 2:5-6), and the fulfillment of the Oral Tradition, or word “spoken by the prophets,” that Christ would be “called a Nazarene” (Matt. Warned by an angel that Herod intends to kill the child, Joseph flees with his wife and child to Egypt where they live until Herod’s death; then they return to Nazareth instead of Bethlehem. At any rate, the Nativity of our Lord is commonly portrayed with Magi, Shepherds, and yes, maybe even the little drummer boy, all together at the manger with the Holy Family and the new-born baby Jesus. And also keep in mind that these problems are not created by the texts of Scripture. If you say the caravan of the Wise Men could travel ca. 970 miles to get to Jerusalem. It simply says Christ was born during the days of King Herod and that the Wise Men came in those days to see—as they themselves asked upon their arrival in Jerusalem—where they could find “he who has been born king of the Jews” (Matt. The “home” in Matthew 2:11 does not conflict with the “manger” in Luke 2:7.

Herod hears of the wise men from the East and sends them to Bethlehem to learn and report to him about the Infant. Jesus’ birth and infancy are described in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, but are not even mentioned in Mark and John. And multiple times (we have the DVD). Institution user?

But the text does not actually say this. (Yes, that was said “tongue and cheek,” folks!) 2. this reference to that beautiful painting. However, having said that, though Matthew 2:1-2 doesn’t specify the time of Christ’s birth, we do have clues elsewhere that indicate the Wise Men did not arrive at the time Christ was actually born; rather, ca. The Holy Family was already there! 2:1 mentions Christ’s actual birth in Bethlehem. Luke mentions the census of Quirinius which requires Joseph to go to Bethlehem where Jesus is born in a manger because there is no room at the inn. 2:11 says the Wise Men found him in a “house” in Bethlehem where the Holy Family was not staying in the Inn—or more precisely, the manger attached to an Inn—that we find in Luke’s Gospel. You didn’t just jump into a car or airplane and go. What do apologists for atheism and liberal Scripture scholars have in common? Because there is “no account of a journey from Nazareth to Bethlehem” in St. Matthew’s Gospel, this does not mean St. Matthew’s Gospel excludes it as a possibility. We know, in fact, they would have ended up in Nazareth where Christ actually was, not Bethlehem. https://www.ncregister.com/blog/msgr-pope/christmas-isnt-candy-canes-its-d-day-in-the-war-against-satan, The Flatlander’s Argument Against Miracles. 2:13-14, and then after being told by an angel of the Lord to return to Israel, in Matt. A Production of Word on Fire, "Come now, let us reason together." Actually, Matthew 2:23 does not say the Holy Family “first” went to Nazareth after the flight into Egypt. Start studying Matthew and Luke Infancy Narratives (Differences and Similarities). 2:23). As I said above, in this brief post, we are not going to eliminate all of the errors that are out there claiming contradictions between the infancy narratives. It gives me an excuse to watch all those kid-oriented Christmas specials!). There are two crucial assumptions made here that have nothing to do with the actual text of Scripture. St. Matthew is writing to a Jewish Christian community; thus, he emphasizes both Christ’s birth in Bethlehem to fulfill the Old Testament prophecy of Micah 5:2 (Matt. Jesus’ Birth and when Herod the Great *Really* Died, Tools for Thinking Sensibly about Scripture, Coming to Our Senses: The Moral Sense of Scripture. 2:9. Choose from 128 different sets of matthew luke infancy narratives flashcards on Quizlet. 2:12, and Herod later realizes they were not coming back to give him his desired information about the location of our Lord, in 2:16, “in a rage” he determined to “kill all of the children in Bethlehem and in all that region who were two years old or under, according to the time which he had ascertained from the Wise Men” (emphasis added).

That’s at the very least a good place to start! Is the Bible's inerrancy limited to matters pertaining to salvation? Moreover, the infancy narratives in Matthew and Luke are seemingly quite different from one another. The star would have led them to Nazareth, where, St. Luke tells us, in 2:39, “[the Holy Family] returned,” but only after “they had performed everything according to the law of the Lord.”. St. Luke, the only inspired Evangelist who was also a Gentile, did not seem as interested in pointing those things out. Would America Be Better Off without Religion. In Luke, shepherds guided by an angel find Jesus in the manger; they praise God for what they have seen but do not bring the child gifts. one to at most two years after Christ’s birth, the story of the shepherd and the angels finding Christ in Bethlehem in Luke 2:8-20, the circumcision of Christ while the Holy Family was still in Bethlehem in Luke 2:21, the “Presentation of the Lord” in the temple of Luke 2:22-36 (ca. one to as much as two years later. This sole overlap parallels Luke 2:6-7. Once we get the above timeline right, the “contradictions” between “infancy narratives” are not so contradictory any longer. Matthew, however, gives no details of how Joseph and Mary came to be in Bethlehem; nor are there any details of Jesus’ birth. I love “The Little Drummer Boy,” too! As savior, Jesus is looked upon by Luke as the one who rescues humanity from sin and delivers humanity from the condition of alienation from God. We have to remember that the inspired authors place emphases on particular aspects of the life of Christ and the Holy Family for particular theological reasons. Ken Roberts used to say many years ago when he was on the sawdust trail, as they say: “Whenever someone quotes a verse of Scripture to you, ask him to quote the four before it and the four after it before even thinking of beginning a conversation.”. In fact, there are some who argue for contradictions even within the narratives themselves. So, after “assembling all of the chief priests, and scribes” (vs. 4), and asking them where the Messiah was to be born, they informed him of Micah’s prophecy (5:2) that foretold Bethlehem as the birthplace of the coming king.

Log in with your IP address. Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, Wise Men from the East came to Jerusalem…. Luke is the only synoptic gospel writer to use the title savior for Jesus (Lk 2:11; Acts 5:31; 13:23; see also Lk 1:69; 19:9; Acts 4:12). Moreover, after God warned the Magi “not to return to Herod” in Matt. Perhaps there is a lesson here about getting one’s theology, or history, through children’s Claymation television shows… or, from atheists and liberal Scripture scholars? Or, at least, what you should be thinking. In Matthew, wise men from the East, guided by a star, come not to Bethlehem but to Jerusalem to worship the Infant. Raymond Brown, S.S., for example, who definitely made positive contributions to biblical study in the Church, also made some not-so-good contributions. And this is no easy task, mind you, because these “contradictions” do not actually exist. They are created in the imaginations of those creating the so-called “contradictions.” Here we go: According to St. Luke’s account, Mary and Joseph traveled from Nazareth to Bethlehem because of the census called for by Caesar Augustus. After being warned by God to flee Herod’s wrath and travel to Egypt in Matt. He was corrupt and didn’t want another “king” to threaten his position of power. Matthew 2:23 tells us the Holy Family never went to live in Nazareth until after the coming of the Magi and the flight into Egypt. Thus, if we allow for Herod hedging his bet to make sure he kills the right child, the information he garnered from the Magi would probably have placed the birth of Christ at about a year or so before the Magi’s arrival. 2:1, there is no overlap with Luke’s infancy narrative and Matthew’s. Matthew 2:3-7 tells us that after the Wise Men arrived in Jerusalem and began asking about the location of  “he who has been born king of the Jews” (notice, they did not say “new-born king” as many assume, they said, “he who has been born king of the Jews…”), Herod was troubled, for obvious reasons.

We are not going to get to all of the “contradictions” claimed, but as one other example, the claim is also made that when the Wise Men were sent to Bethlehem by Herod, then that would naturally have been where they ended up finding the Holy Family when they arrive at the place “where the child was” in Matt. If the Wise Men would have then headed to Bethlehem, the Holy Family would have been long gone. This is the foundation for the “contradiction” between St. Luke’s “manger” and St. Matthew’s “house,” and more. Many will say at this point that a journey of 500 to 1,000 miles would not take that long. This is another non-biblical assumption. But as a parting word of advice, I will repeat the words Fr. In fact, Matthew 2:9 tells us that after Herod told the Magi to go to Bethlehem, it would be the miraculous star that would actually guide them to Christ. a six-mile trip that would take the better part of a day to walk), and the “return to Nazareth” of Luke 2:39, all happen within ca. Herod wanted to know “when the star appeared” so he could know the approximate age of the child. But if you keep in mind the historical timeline laid out here, you can deal with most of the claimed anomalies. We’ll use St. Luke’s account as our beginning point of reference and from there we’ll move forward inserting the alleged “contradictions” as we go. Coming from Persia, most likely, they would have had to travel ca. At least, that’s the distance from modern Tehran, anyway. The text of Scripture indicates it was the Magi that revealed the time of Christ’s birth to have been long before the Magi’s arrival in Nazareth. We’ll use St. Luke’s account as our beginning point of reference and from there we’ll move forward inserting the alleged “contradictions” as we go. Critics nearly unanimously interpret this to mean that St. Matthew is claiming the Wise Men arrived in Bethlehem at the time Christ was born. (If memory serves correct, even Charlie Brown quotes from Luke and ignores Matthew.) In Matthew’s Gospel, Jesus is depicted as being born in the family home of Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem where they had lived all along, contradicting St. Luke’s account. The two “infancy narratives” are found in Luke 2:1-39 and Matthew 1:18-2:23. The assumption is made that St. Matthew’s recording of the Wise Men following the star leads them to the Holy Family at the time of Jesus’ actual birth, and in Bethlehem. 5 to 10 miles per day, it would have taken anywhere from ca. This is true, but this does not take into account many variables.

Then Herod summoned the Wise Men secretly and ascertained from them what time the star appeared, and he sent them to Bethlehem, saying, “Go and search diligently for the child, and when you have found him bring me word, that I too may come and worship him.”. The two “infancy narratives” are found in Luke 2:1-39 and Matthew 1:18-2:23. Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. That is another unbiblical assumption.

And this is true.

- Isaiah 1:18. 2:2). Does Luke Contradict Himself on When Jesus Was Born? 1 to 2 years after the nativity of St. Luke’s Gospel.