I didn’t make that public. music News. Statement re: Jordan Peterson. August 10, 2018 Friends, When I came across Jordan Peterson, I was initially interested by his arguments about Nietzsche, Jung and Dostoevsky. Like a Mumford & Sons chorus, it is sycophancy dressed up as ancient wisdom. Atheists give fundamentalists shit for thinking the world is 4,000 years old, but the SJW types have a history that goes back 400 years at most. The intellectual heavyweight behind all these claims is Jordan Peterson, who recently turned up in Mumford & Sons’ recording studio. Read the choicest cuts from the Quietus archive: reviews, features and opinion, Big Society, Little Hope: False Folk Culture In 2011, If You're Going To San Francisco, Be Sure To Have Lots Of Cash, A Queer Continent? The old tweet was dredged up last week when Pitchfork posted about a photo that Mumford & Sons took with Peterson back in May of the folk-pop band in their London studio. My tweet was about his right to hold his ideas rather than support for them per se. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, fatherless, solitary, floating in a chaotic moral vacuum, consta. The challenge is that it can really impact your livelihood. It’s not the psychology professor’s first pop cultural liaison: Peterson has enjoyed the company of Russell Brand , and his ardent defenders include Sean Ono Lennon and, bafflingly, Laetitia Sadier , onetime singer with Marxist pop tinkerers Stereolab. With Mumford & Sons, perhaps it was an impromptu hang - we know only that an invitation was granted, a warm welcome received - but something about this particular alignment is too perfect to shrug off. Cody ChesnuTT) [MCA] Stereolab – Percolator Róisín Murphy – Exploitation [PLAY IT AGAIN SAM] Darondo – Didn’t I Point Point – Morning Flying Lotus – Tea Leaf Dancesr feat.
The UK music press seems so inane and politized that she might have given in.

Sean Ono Lennon has also tweeted in support of him. La Resistance! Statement re: Jordan Peterson. Especially because they were such an antidote to the 'rockist' mainstream then. In Sadier’s recent statement (via Pitchfork), she says that her “tweet was about his right to hold his ideas rather than support for them per se” and says that, following the tweet, she “started seeing more clearly the cracks in his reasoning.” Here’s her statement in full: When I came across Jordan Peterson, I was initially interested by his arguments about Nietzsche, Jung and Dostoevsky.

Hooray, I can start listening to Emperor Tomato Ketchup again! However questionable I think his arguments are now, I objected to the way he, rather than his ideas, was demonised.

Music can pervert identity or challenge history, venture inward, channel trauma and rally the dispossessed, but the Mumfords didn’t consider music useful.

Now, Pitchfork reports, the artist has released a statement via her official website walking back previous support of the culture warrior while clarifying her stance. But I also draw a distinction between libertarian values and the simple rule of "strive to think for yourself." So I personally have the hunch that she has grown disillusioned by Marxists (I could be wrong, but they were a clever, well read lot in this band) but regardless, it intrigues me that someone with a long history in this particular ideological camp resonated with Peterson, but felt the need to virtually reverse her stance, clearly under pressure. It's not just a story about yet another public figure (or, say, academic) who has to walk back their support or interest in Peterson. Stereolab's Laetitia Sadier Addresses Her Support for Jordan Peterson. There was a minor conference of whoppers recently when alt-right figurehead Jordan Peterson popped into Mumford & Sons' studio for a photo op.

Two examples come to mind: It happened with Trump supporters and it happened with Gamergaters. Still, Stereolab was/is great. She sounds like a sheep both ways to be honest, whether blindly accepting what Peterson says, or blindly accepting what people say in response to his ideas.

One reason i tend towards libertarianism is its insistence that individuals should be thinking for themselves and is less concerned with groups. As a wholly independent publication, we rely entirely on our ad bookings to keep The Quietus going. Gina Lyle August 7th, 2018 - 2:13 PM. The former Stereolab member threw her name behind Peterson after the Guardian published an article critical of the author’s rhetoric, tweeting, “I am so gutted by the treatment The Guardian -and some of the well to do media- has given you this week. I should have done and I am sorry for that. Please whitelist our site in order to continue to access The Quietus. Back in February, in response to an article in The Guardian about the conspiracy theories and misleading arguments the professor peddles, the former Stereolab member tweeted: “I am so gutted by the treatment The Guardian -and some of the well to do media- has given you this week. But I kind of stopped paying attention for a few months. Nevertheless, the former Stereolab singer had a room th... Stereolab's Laetitia Sadier Readies 'Find Me Finding You' LP, Stereolab Hint at Reunion, Announce More Vinyl Reissues, Stereolab's Laetitia Sadier Addresses Her Support for Jordan Peterson, Stereolab's Laetitia Sadier Returns with New Solo Album, Ukrainian Federation, Montreal, QC, September 19. It's not just a story about yet another public figure (or, say, academic) who has to walk back their support or interest in Peterson. I should have done and I am sorry for that. Following my tweet, I started seeing more clearly the cracks in his reasoning: his systematic assault on what he calls neo Marxism, his hang up on social justice warriors, his narrow biological determinism around gender issues were perturbing to say the least. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the JordanPeterson community. I like to say I like the "libertarian ethos" -- smaller government, more emphasis on local communities, and personal responsibility.

And I find it funny that she saw the "cracks" in his work not criticising colonialism and neoliberalism and not in his anti-feminist rhetoric. As he gets more and more extreme, the normal people will peel off more and more--and the people who are left will get even more culty. It’s not the psychology professor’s first pop cultural liaison: Peterson has enjoyed the company of Russell Brand , and his ardent defenders include Sean Ono Lennon and, bafflingly, Laetitia Sadier , onetime singer with Marxist pop tinkerers Stereolab. Support tQ's work by becoming a subscriber and enjoy the benefits of bonus essays, podcasts and exclusively-commissioned new music. The plunder of American roots music has gone quite far enough. I came to him for self-authoring.

This forum is dedicated to the work associated with Dr. Jordan Peterson: a public intellectual, clinical psychologist, and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. On Masculinity & Australia's Queer Origin Stories. There are very few folks, whether that be on the right or left, who are concerned with discerning for themselves the answer to deeper questions. Faggamuffins Step Out: Why Queering Carnival Matters, Why The Jordan Peterson & Mumfords Brodown Comes As No Surprise, Theatre Of Extremities: On Red Bull & The QT Agenda At C2C 2015, No Turbans In Rock & Roll? But what defines artists, and songs, is character. I think that's a high value, one that keeps you from going blindly going along with the herd... but also helps you to know when it's appropriate to follow the herd too.. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. On Growing Up A British Sikh Punk, Wordsworth Reimagined: tQ-Commissioned Artists Respond To The Prelude, We Are 12!

Mumford & Sons have never had it easy with the press, for reasons Peterson would no doubt contest. Last February, Laetitia Sadier defended Canadian psychologist and author Jordan Peterson who rose to fame for his contentious views concerning gender dynamics and social justice issues. When women and artists of colour prosper, they jump to action; when curmudgeonly men are dethroned, they rage. To find out more, click here. I love that even the people who've supported him in the past are starting to speak out against him. Critics denouncing pop music are often considered grudge-bearing contrarians. You have all my support and many thanks for your clarity and -oh too rare- courage to speak the truth!”. Their songs, like any, reflected a worldview; critics reverse engineered that worldview and, after inspection, said no thank you. It’s also how, in our most prized records, we find ourselves. Laetitia Sadier, former frontwoman of outspokenly Marxist lounge-pop groop Stereolab, has distanced herself from a statement she made in February in support of the right-wing firebrand and self-help author Jordan Peterson.

I was antisjw in 2013-14 but by 15 I had started realizing people were attacking even the simplest left of center opinions.

In particular, they lament identity politics’ perceived influence over the music press. I should have done and I am sorry for that. If you are even slightly misaligned with mainstream, far left view... it's a risky proposition. Now I'd rather not be against sjws even if there are things I disagree with, because we have slipped down that slope already. It's this weird paradox -- these are people who are explorers and creative types, and they tend to lean left because they are empathetic, but at the same time, they have a need to belong and fit in, and become very tribal.

I didn't have much faith in people anyways, and it went even lower then(for example I assumed everyone remembered the tea party antics). The haters may now be vindicated, but it’s thanks to identity politics that we knew Mumford & Sons were fucking us all along.
However my question is that she never explains in her statement what attracted her to Peterson's ideas initially. The intellectual heavyweight behind all these claims is Jordan Peterson, who recently turned up in Mumford & Sons’ recording studio. The people within the left who were criticizing callout culture never framed it as "anti-SJW" because splitting people up into "us and them" was precisely what they were against. !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)? Lætitia Sadier has released a statement regarding a tweet she sent earlier this year in support of right wing “intellectual” Jordan Peterson. Conservative music fans, it seems, are convinced that everybody experiences music as they do: a pure expression of rhythm, emotion and melody. And then there was that review who compared them to Hitler (so at least they have that in common with JP), https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/reviews-nme-1392.